Michael Gordon, chief military correspondent for The New York Times, was recently the guest on Fresh Air. He gave an amazing and engaging run down of his understanding of the Iraq conflict after having been embedded there since the 2003 invasion.

He openly talks about the difficulties of recruiting Iraq military forces, Sadam’s reasoning for lying about WMD’s, Rumsfeld’s famous “No Nation Building” speech and the White House’s redefining of the word “victory” in regards to our involvement there. Amazing stuff from someone who’s been with this thing from the very beginning.

Listen to the interview here.

Iraq in a nutshell